Getting out of the UK - and indeed getting in - is becoming more difficult. Host Miranda Green unpicks home secretary Suella Braverman’s tough talk on British borders with FT columnist Stephen Bush and Rhys Clyne, the Institute for Government’s home affairs expert. Plus: this week marked the death of Nigel Lawson, one of the most consequential and longest-serving British chancellors of the 20th century. Miranda discusses his highs and lows with FT economics editor Chris Giles and Patience Wheatcroft, veteran business journalist.Presented by Miranda Green. Produced by Anna Dedhar and Persis Love. The executive producer is Manuela Saragosa. The sound engineer is Breen Turner.News clips: Sky, BBCWant more?Dorset residents unite against plan to moor asylum seekers in port UK passport delays hit ‘unacceptable level’ in 2022, says report Nigel Lawson, chancellor and journalist, 1932-2023Brexit gives us a chance to finish the Thatcher revolution - by Nigel Lawson, September 2016 -Follow @greenmiranda-Sign up for a free 90 days of Stephen Bush's Inside Politics newsletter, winner of the World Association of News Publishers 2023 ‘Best Newsletter’ award: https://www.ft.com/newsletter-signup/inside-politics -Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com -View our accessibility guide Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.