This week Jen chats with Jen Wagner, a type designer - and the conversation was incredible. We went totally off-script and talked through some really personal things. Jen shares her story and recent experience with burnout, we chat about culture shifts we’re noticing in the independent designer industry, and then we talk through how to get started in font design and what that looks like for Jen W. and her business.Guest Information:Guest Name: Jen WagnerGuest Business Name: Jen Wagner Co.Guest Website: Jen Wagner Co. websiteGuest Instagram: @jenwagner.coLinks Mentioned:Jen Wagner Co. websiteGimlet StudiosFree Font Pairing GuideFontselfGlyphsLearning Type Design by Charles NixIngrid from Penguin DesigningMaria Bowler - Writer & Creative CoachSpecial thanks to our producer Jon from Wayfare Recording Co.Connect With Us:Our Free Facebook CommunityOur WebsiteOur Resources PagePodcast InstagramSupport us on PatreonOur podcast disclaimer can be found by visiting:www.betterbranddesigner.com/disclaimer