Andy chats with journalist & fellow Curt Gowdy Award winner - Jackie MacMullan! Andy & Jackie discuss her recent retirement, why she decided to hang it up, how access to players has changed over the years, how she approached covering difficult topics & subjects, Kobe Bryant's relationship with Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan's speech at Kobe's memorial, covering the NBA bubble in 2020, players standing up for social justice issues, her hooping bonafides, her path to the Boston Globe, being the first female sports columnist for the Globe, paving the way for female journalists, and so much more! Beyond the Lens workshop - coming soon! Sign up now at BeyondTheLens.live