Dan Nathan is joined by Tech Check’s Deirdre Bosa and Dan Ives of Wedbush Securities to talk about Big Tech’s “Bizarro Trade” (3:00). How is Dan Ives thinking about valuation right now (12:00)? Is the China situation an obstacle for Tesla moving forward and what's next for Apple (20:00). After a decade of slumber, we’re finally seeing the return of stock pickers (38:00)

David Steinberg is Co-Founder, Chairman & CEO of Zeta Global. He joins the pod to discuss why has AI been so important to Zeta (36:30). Markets overreacted to Microsoft’s investment in AI and then subsequently sold-off too much in Google (45:00). We’re seeing a generation of executives that have never seen a downturn (53:00). The higher cost of capital is working its way through the system and the credit cycle (1:02:00).

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