https://discipledbyjesus.org/what-we-do/Transcript Here Read the blog by clicking here. Serving pastors, parents, and churches in growing Christlike disciples and disciplers.HeartWalk is determined to be all about Jesus, about being with Him, and about helping others be with Him. HeartWalk is about meeting, ministering, and maturing with Jesus, then making disciples who do the same and will be equipped to help others meet, minister, mature, and so on.Hal & Debbi PerkinsHal and Debbi have given 40 years in studying and strategically applying the principles of making disciples that Jesus modeled and commanded of His followers. Both formally and informally, they relationally discipled their four children (now all in full-time Christian ministry) and those in their churches willing to invest time in their own relationship with Jesus and then to help others.HeartWalk FoundationsIn 1969 Hal was dramatically called into professional ministry. He andDebbi began their first full time pastoral role in June 1 of 1970 and concluded 40 years of pastoral ministry on June 30, 2010. They have been married 41 years. At marriage, Hal was a math teacher and coach. Debbi finished college to become an elementary teacher.During their 40 years of professional ministry, Hal and Debbi served five Nazarene churches as senior pastor. Debbi taught in both public and Christian schools, served as administrative assistant to the Lieutenant Governor of Oklahoma, and ministered as a chaplain in 10 corporations.Welcome in echo through eternity. I'm your host, Dr. Jeffrey D. Skinner. What is God echoing through your life today? I am joined in the studio today by Reverend Hal Perkins. He has a ministry called Discipledbyjesus.org. As you can imagine, it focuses on discipleship. One of the things that we talk about in church planting. And nine times out of ten, if you have a church that's in need of revitalization or a church that needs to be relaunched, or if you're planting a new church, if you're launching a new church, there are eight systems that we tend to focus on within that church. Planting within the sphere of revitalization that need to be healthy for your church to thrive. Nine times out of ten, if there's a church in need of revitalization, one of these systems are multiple systems are going to be broken. Dr. Jeffery D. Skinner·02:30Primarily discipleship system will be broken, your worship system is likely to be broken and your outreach or in reaching system is likely to be broken. There are five other systems that need to be healthy as well. But discipleship is key. You need to be I tell people there's seasons in church, ministry in there, you need to be both receiving to disciple and train and teach and simultaneously be sending those. So multiplication, that's another system, that multiplication system. So we're not just multiplying churches, we're multiplying disciples. That was Jesus. Model was a god of descending god. We invited Reverend Hal perkins on because he specializes in discipleship. He was so good at discipleship that he wrote several books on discipleship, has a ministry that focuses on that. Dr. Jeffery D. Skinner·03:21And so I thought it'd be good to bring him on and let him kind of tell his story, how God is reverberating his voice throughout eternity there echoing his voice through eternity. Welcome, brother Hal. How are you doing today? Rev. Hal Perkins·03:34Thank you, Dr. Jeff. Good to be with you. I'm doing great. Speaker 4·03:37It's good to have you. Dr. Jeffery D. Skinner·03:38So tell us a little bit about your story. We've got a mutual friend in. Reverend Jeff fresh low. Jeff is one of our coaches in DCPI. And so at DCPI Dynamic Church Planting International, we offer free training to pastors who Christian leaders who have a call to plant church. And so Jeff is one of our coaches and helps others on our online platform to train others. Actually, he's leading the training right now. And he and I were talking he purchased sev