Kaitlin and Amanda are joined by former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and fellow podcast host Julián Castro to discuss parenting during a pandemic and pushing for progressive change now that the election is ending. They discuss what the election showed us about Texas’s path to becoming a blue state and what conversations about the “Latino vote” usually miss. Finally, Secretary Castro shares his favorite episodes from his new podcast “Our America,” including an interview with BFF Elizabeth Warren and binge-worthy episodes that chart a path towards a more humane future.

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