"I'm also trying to make use of how innate I think curiosity is for people, because curiosity is kind of a way towards hope… it's in that direction." Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock by Jenny Odell, author of How to Do Nothing, asks readers to look at the concept of time, how it relates to the structure of our society and how it can change the way we live our lives. Odell joins us to talk about commodifying time and leisure, the language we use to describe time, the authors and artists that have influenced her and more with Poured Over host Miwa Messer. Listen after the episode for a TBR Topoff from Marc and Madyson.      Featured Books (Episode):  Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock by Jenny Odell  How to Do Nothing by Jenny Odell  Grapefruit by Yoko Ono     Featured Books (TBR Topoff):  Do Nothing by Celeste Headlee  Still Pictures by Janet Malcolm    Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).