In an interview, the guest who is Gary Yeow, together with Naziaty, resulted in two podcasters discussing alternative methodologies in architecture. More of a conversation where much of the dialogue was dedicated to the role of the Malaysian Architects Association (Pertubuhan Akitek Malaysia - PAM) and how open engagements such as discourse and debate are needed to be done to address all issues and sentiments currently being surfacing in informal events, apart from PAM's. Other topics in this episode include how younger architects like Gary, view architecture practice and negotiating life after graduation.Gary Yeow is co-founder of projectxyz – a design collective engaged in wide-ranging projects from competitions to furniture and installation design, always rooted in user experience and architecture. Gary also hosts the xyzpodcast, and is exploring writing, event, and curation with a keen interest in connecting the linkage between architectural education and practice.http://www.projectxyz7.wixsite.com/projects©️Talk Architecture 2023, Author: Naziaty Mohd Yaacob.  Photo credit ©️ Gary Yeow's sketch for the final year project in Masters @ StrathclydeSupport the showDo subscribe for premium content and special features which will help to support and sustain Talk Architecture podcast on a more in-depth explanation on design thesis and processes. These special commentaries and ‘how to’ explanations are valuable insights and knowledge not found elsewhere!