Lee Calvert from Blood & Mud owed us a favour, we invited him and his co-host Josh Gardner onto this podcast so we could all laugh at him, after witnessing England's 36-0 humiliation at the hands of the Springboks. May contain traces of Shaun Perry.Thanks to Lee (@bloodandmud on Twitter) and Josh (@joshgardner) for joining us. Chances are you already listen to the Blood & Mud Rugby Podcast, but if you don't, you can find it on all podcast networks. If you enjoy this, you'll definitely enjoy that.The theme tune for this episode is "Industrial Revolution Part Two", the official theme tune of the 2007 RWC. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.