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Chris Summerfield runs the Human Information Processing Lab at University of Oxford, and he's a research scientist at Deepmind. You may remember him from episode 95 with Sam Gershman, when we discussed ideas around the usefulness of neuroscience and psychology for AI. Since then, Chris has released his book, Natural General Intelligence: How understanding the brain can help us build AI. In the book, Chris makes the case that inspiration and communication between the cognitive sciences and AI is hindered by the different languages each field speaks. But in reality, there has always been and still is a lot of overlap and convergence about ideas of computation and intelligence, and he illustrates this using tons of historical and modern examples.






Human Information Processing Lab.



Twitter: @summerfieldlab.



Book: Natural General Intelligence: How understanding the brain can help us build AI.



Other books mentioned:

Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? by Frans de Waal



The Mind is Flat by Nick Chater.






0:00 - Intro
2:20 - Natural General Intelligence
8:05 - AI and Neuro interaction
21:42 - How to build AI
25:54 - Umwelts and affordances
32:07 - Different kind of intelligence
39:16 - Ecological validity and AI
48:30 - Is reward enough?
1:05:14 - Beyond brains
1:15:10 - Large language models and brains