A Social Curriculum that Centers Authenticity with Carolyn Long and Nick Kelsch

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A Social Curriculum that Centers Authenticity with Carolyn Long and Nick Kelsch

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Jan 18, 2023

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This episode is about how we as therapists build something different to support our autistic clients' social and emotional development, with our ethics and values guiding us and our autistic students as our co-creators. Our guests are SLP Carolyn Long of Social Optics and her student-turned-colleague, Nick.

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Jan 18, 2023

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