This week, Kate goes back to the beginning. Back to where (the earth, the stars, the sun all aligned, yes) but also back to the beginning of her fascination with southern California beach culture, thanks to 2004's groundbreaking reality show, Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County. Due to Kristin & Stephen's podcast, the show is experiencing somewhat of a renaissance, and in case you’re adding this to your holiday binge watch schedule, Kate wanted to also revisit the days of side bangs, black and white party group hangs, promposals, and jean skirt/Ugg combos now that this footage is available at our disposal on Netflix. After reminiscing about some of her takeaways upon rewatching episodes, Kate interviews former cast member that was labeled as Stephen's (but more appropriately was America's) "wingman" Dieter Schmitz to talk about seasons 1 & 2. She asks burning questions, e.g. what is his current relationship with feta cheese? Who is he still friends with? When did he feel production went over the line? How does he feel about being a supporting character who was almost in every episode? Were people as hammered as they looked at Fight the Slide 2005? Among other things. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSButcherBox is offering our listeners Tomahawk steaks FREE in the first box when you join.​ Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get Free Tomahawk steak in your first box. Offer valid for one week ONLY.​Get 20% off when you shop better hydration at LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.Be the Good Gifter with MVMT. During their Seasonal Sale, get a special discount just in time for the holidays. Join the MVMT today at MVMT.comSign up for a FREE trial at shopify.com/bethereinfive, ALL LOWERCASE to start selling online today.