Tuck speaks with organizer and educator Dean Spade (he/him). Topics include:  Why civil rights laws won’t save us Common mutual aid struggles: money, security culture, etc. Why does burnout convince us that we can’t take a break? Reflections 20 years after founding the Sylvia Rivera Law Project Plus: dinosaur gender, x markers, and talking people out of law school This Week in Gender: The Texas government tried to make a database of residents who changed their gender markers.  Find Dean’s work at BigDoorBrigade.com, PinkwashingExposed.net and linktr.ee/deanspade. Visit DeanSpade.net for more info on Mutual Aid, videos from past workshops, and many other resources. Find Tuck on the Rainbow Parenting podcast! Join our Patreon (patreon.com/gender) to get access to our monthly bonus podcast (featuring more of this conversation!), weekly newsletter, and other fun perks. Find episode transcripts at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Twitter and Instagram @gendereveal. Submit a piece of Theymail: a small message or ad that we’ll read on the show. Associate Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman Logo: Ira M. LeighMusic: Breakmaster CylinderAdditional Music: “The Dustbin” and “Lumber Down” by Blue Dot Sessions Sponsors: Urbody (promo code: TUCK15)