Lisa Brockman's new book - Out of Zion (Harvest House) releases Oct 1.  Lynn and I both endorsed it . This week we feature part 2 of our interview about the book and how writing it impacted Lisa's relationship with her parents.  She also talks some about how the trauma of leaving your religion of a lifetime never totally goes away, but every time it rears its ugly head she had new opportunities to know Jesus more intimately and experience His healing grace in her life and relationships.  She also talks candidly about her reaction to the picture Christianity Today chose to use along with her interview that just came out this month.  This is a podcast episode full of wonder at God grace, gratitude and lots of humor.