Andrew Tavin and Caroline Cotter join Dave Holmes for our annual Troubled Waters Holiday Special! We discuss Christmas songs of past, present, and future, get quizzed on Santa Claus movies, and pretend to love some thoughtful but terrible gifts.Andrew Tavin would like to plug That's So Tavin, Sound Snackz, and House of House and recommends the podcast Chapter SurfingCaroline Cotter would like to plug Stinkers and recommends Alyssa Limperis' No Bad DaysAnd Finally, Dave Holmes is on Twitter @DaveHolmes.Find us on Twitter! We are @TroubledPodWritten by Riley Silverman and John-Luke Roberts, recorded remotely over Zoom and produced by Christian Dueñas and Laura Swisher.Join the MaxFun fam:maximumfun.org/join Music used  "Deck the Halls B" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ "We Wish you a Merry Christmas" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/