This week ck sits down with long time Bitcoiner and builder Douglas Bakkum. Douglas is the CEO and cofounder of hardware wallet maker Shift Crypto. Douglas and his team have been working hard from very early on to create a hardware wallet experience that is suitable for newbies but has the most important advanced features for maximum sovereignty, safety and trustlessness.   This is a very wide ranging conversation covering Douglas's history, the inspiration for Shift Crypto, the Bitbox 02, and all about Bitcoin cold storage and custody.   The conversation gets pretty technical as we get into the nuances around Wallet Ux and new innovations around Multisig. Douglas is hopeful for the future of multisig but is also skeptical of folks embracing it too early. There are still lots of kinks that need to be ironed out according to Douglas even though Bitcoin Multisig has gotten immensely better.   Follow Douglas @douglasbakkum Follow Shift Crypto @ShiftCryptoHQ Follow ck @ck_SNARKs Follow Bitcoin Magazine @BitcoinMagazine