This episode is Part 2 of the Re-Creation of Meaning Roundtable (The Fire Dragon Edition) featuring John Mark McMillan, Stephen Roach, Vesper Stamper and Brandon Willett. In this part of the discussion, we talk through: - self absorption vs. self awareness- the role of the audience in the artist's creative process.- meekness and confidence- Fire Dragons and Jackalopes- How the intimate reflects the infiniteThis Roundtable is the world's first podcast ever to discuss Taylor Swift, Radiohead, Beck, Nick Cave, Miley Cyrus, Madonna, Lady Gaga, Justin Vernon, Jay Z, Kanye, Rick Rubin, Adele, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Johnny Cash, Slayer, James Taylor, Andy Warhol, Robert Rauschenberg, Fire Dragons, Comic Books, David Brooks... All in one episode. Enjoy..Join The Makers & Mystics Creative Collective. Your support enables us to continue leading the way in these conversations on art, faith and culture. Buy Vesper’s New Book! It’s Incredible. See Brandon’s amazing visual artHear John Mark McMillan’s musicJohn Mark McMillan