Malcolm Harkins is the Chief Security & Trust Officer at Cymatic. Malcolm will discuss the security profits from the insecurity of computing thus at a macro economic level has no real economic incentive to solve many of the risk issues we face. The lack of good economic incentives has turned the notion of Defense in Depth in to one of Expense in Depth where we continue to use outdated approaches to control for risks which results in needing to purchase other solutions to make up for the weakness of the solutions we bought that did not properly control for the risks. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://wiki.securityweekly.com/ESWEpisode171