On a brand new episode of The Rockstar Dad Show, Jaret and Gary invite Fred Mascherino to the mic. You might know him from Taking Back Sunday or his solo work as The Color Fred—but did you know he’s a rockstar dad too?

After his son was born right before he had to play a show, Fred has learned a lot about balancing family life and a music career. He chats with the guys about joining Taking Back Sunday and how his family led to that decision, adjusting to touring while having kids at home, and leaving the band years later.