In honor of November as Infrastructure Awareness Month, we wanted to bring back this episode from our 2021 archives with Rob Lee, CEO and Co-Founder of Dragos. In this episode, Rob breaks down the OT challenge that many businesses are facing today including a lack of clarity on who within the business owns OT and defining what acceptable OT risk means within the business. He also shares perspective on multi-factor authentication as one of the universal controls, the industry + geopolitical aspect of managing risk, and shifting the lens to think about the IP threat from the operator POV. And he shares insights on the Salt Water Project and what can happen when thinking through OT impact + the art of the possible.     For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e208