In this episode, Phil and Roy have a discussion with Frank Payne of Living Art. We hear about Frank’s origins in herpetoculture, how he grew his practice into a thriving family business, how he selects species to focus his efforts on, designing systems and routines for success – and of course, a whole bunch of husbandry talk in between. Enjoy! And please like, subscribe, and share this episode, if you feel so inclined. Show Notes: https://www.animalsathomenetwork.com/14-frank-payne/ LINKS FROM THE EPISODE: Frank’s website: https://www.livingartbyfrankpayne.com Follow Frank on Instagram: @livingartbyfrankpayne Support, Subscribe  & Follow: CHECK OUT Custom Reptile Habitats CLICK HERE Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/projectherpetoculture Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0UCdymrooiNVloQlxrW1FA Follow P : H on Instagram: @projectherpetoculture Follow Phil on Instagram: @aridsonly Follow Roy on Instagram: @wellspringherp