The UK podcast Sustainababble has been around for eight years, but it is shutting down this year. Happily, it had me on as a guest before it turned out the lights -- we discussed the recent US midterms, the right way to think about climate change, & how to keep one's shit together. Hosts Dave and Oliver were kind enough to allow me to send it out as an episode of Volts, so please enjoy. Get full access to Volts at www.volts.wtf/subscribe