Leigh Ellis from the NoDunks Podcast on the Athletic Network joins us to talk Celtics/Raptors, the coaching matchup between Brad Stevens and Nick Nurse, and the impact and development of Tatum, Brown and Pascal Siakam. Plus, Kemba’s impact on the Celtics vs the Celtics' impact on Kemba.   We also discuss a potential series between the Celtics and the Heat (along with several anti-jinxing remarks), and we make a proposal to convert Leigh into a full-time, official Celtics fan.