(Hello, Virgin Records?)Every mile away from LondonIs a mile away from where he needed to be.Subsequent Chronological Milestones:  PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanityPig Face – 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap!  NIN’S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there!  Street lives…. (Rail ‘em in and Regiment)Setlists? Who uses a set-list?PIL had a looseness that belied their commitmentNew York Gig discussion – what do we start with?3000 people Martin onstage and John and Keith have left the buildingKeith Levine wanted only green lighting – John Lydon wanted to be back in the hotel.  Strippers and Homework in the Dressing roomNo rehearsals - like an old-style jazz bandHow we gonna end? - Smoke signals!  Serving time in North of England Labour clubsBackstage Beer in the Pot, or is it?Satisfying Sayonaras...Leaving The Mynd and its Mellotron  Martin goes to LondonMelody Maker ad – Drummer required for well-known singer.“I’m really good – can I audition today?”Wait – we just Set the drummer on fire!Serendipitous Savings…Curator of Chicago’s Post Punk Museum  Dressing room sign from American BandstandMartin’s Mickey Mouse watchWhiskey and MeditationScintillating Scent of Success …Speed, Alcohol plus Scratch and Sniff Banana postcards!No. 3 = Smell of MoneyNo. 4 = Sweaty Boys in a Mosh PitNo. 5 = Paper cup from a John Peel sessionHappy Anniversaries and Memories  No diary for Lol the ExistentialistTwo Sides to Every Story…Theory begets RealityMartin = 90% Comedian; 10% HistorianOwning our past - 1st Class or 2nd Class?  Crystal clear recollections ofJohnny Rotten, Jazz Coleman and Al JourgensenSuperior Performers…A bus-full of Junkies and Chlorine Gas  Tolerance and Respect for Crazy Charismatic people  A Rare and Undefinable BreedMartin - The MonarchBudgie - The DukeLol - The EmperorRead it in Books.We’re blessed and grateful to be hereThree drummers and a Practice padWe belong togetherLike Three Peas in a PodDedicated to the Memory of Jeff Ward (November 18, 1962 – March 19, 1993) and William ‘Bill’ Fredrick Rieflin II (September 30, 1960 – March 24, 2020)CONNECT WITH US:Curious Creatures:Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.comFacebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialTwitter: @curecreaturesInstagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficialLol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.comFacebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whooInstagram: @budgie646 Curious Creatures is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network. For more of the best music storytelling follow @DoubleElvis on Instagram or search Double Elvis in your podcast app.