Today, the Safari brings you an interview recorded AT the AZA Annual Conference in Baltimore, MD. I'm talking to Clay Carbajal of The Abilene Zoo and The Wild Side with Clay, a YouTube series that Clay hosts and produces! This is a really deep episode, in which we discuss Clay's career, his unique path to his current job, and his time working at SeaWorld...during the Blackfish controversy. We delve into that topic, and the magical connection to wildlife that is so essential to us as humans. We both share stories that make us cry (a Rossifari first), and you get TWO Rossifari Poop Stories! Patrons also get bonus audio in which Clay and I discuss what it's like being married to someone who works at the zoo with him! EPISODE LINKS: abilenezoo.org @abilenezoo on Facebook and InstagramThe Wild Side with Clay on YouTube @thewildsideclay on Instagram painteddog.org savethevaquita.org ROSSIFARI LINKS: patreon.com/rossifari rossifari.com @rossifari on social media @rossifaripod on TikTok