This week's episode features an interview with Dr. Jeniffer Dien Bard and Dr. Amy Leber. Dr. Dien Bard is the Director of Microbiology at the Children's Hospital in Los Angeles, California. Dr. Leber works at the Department of Pathology Laboratory Medicine at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio. They join the podcast this week to talk about the shortages of Clinical Medical Laboratory Professionals in Microbiology. Why do we have these shortages? What about training programs? How long does training a professional takes? Tune in to this episode to find out. Link to original article: https://doi.org/10.1128/jcm.00241-22Link to certification for laboratory personnel: https://www.ascp.org/content/board-of-certification/get-credentialedLink for accredited programs: https://www.naacls.org/Find-a-Program.aspx