In this episode, Clarence and Stephen catch up, talk growth with the podcast, how time moves so fast, and getting into the fall festivities with their Halloween plans. Then they sit down with former USA Volleyball director of sport development, the one and only John Kessel (9:02 - 1:30:22). John talks about his coaching philosophy, gives some real life example coaching tips, shares his ideas about the growth of the game, how he "coaches coaches" and so much more!