Our guests on the podcast today are Kiersten and Julien Saunders. Together they blog about finance and life at the website richandregular.com. And they’re also the authors of a new book called Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away. In addition, they co-host the rich & REGULAR podcast. After discovering the Financial Independence, Retire Early movement in 2012, they proceeded to pay off $200,000 in debt and walked away from their corporate jobs before turning 40.BackgroundBiorich & REGULAR podcastMoney on the TableCashing Out: Win the Wealth Game By Walking Away, by Julien and Kiersten SaundersFinancial Independence, Retire Early and Financial Wellness“How My Experience as a Black Entrepreneur Shaped My Views on Building Financial Freedom,” by Julien Saunders, success.com, Oct. 17, 2022.“They’re on a Mission to Bring FIRE Back to the Black Community. ‘It Is Harder, But It Is Still Possible’,” by Kimanzi Constable, time.com, Sept. 16, 2022.“Tanja Hester: The Pandemic Will Stoke Interest in Early Retirement,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 3, 2020.“Paula Pant: A Different Path to Financial Independence,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 18, 2022.Rich Dad Poor Dad, by Robert KiyosakiBooks by Dr. Dennis Kimbro“From Homeowner to Landlord (Park 1 of 2),” rich & REGULAR blog, richandregular.com, Feb. 27, 2020.“From Homeowner to Landlord (Part 2 of 2),” rich & REGULAR blog, richandregular.com, March 26, 2020.Erin LowryThe Racial Wealth Gap“The Racial Wealth Gap: How Did We Get Here?” richandregular.com, Feb. 6, 2019.“A Black Couple Who Retired Early Says There’s a ‘Black Tax’ on Common Wealth-Building Strategies,” by Leo Aquino, businessinsider.com, June 3, 2022.“Michelle Singletary: ‘You Need Diversity,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 1, 2020.“Lynnette Khalfani-Cox: ‘There’s a Huge Wealth Gap in America,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 27, 2021.Financial Advice and Education“New Ariel-Schwab Black Investor Survey Shows Black Americans Continue to Trail Their White Counterparts in Building Wealth,” aboutschwab.com.“4 Investing Rules Even ‘Regular’ People Can Use to Get Rich,” by Julien and Kiersten Saunders, money.com, June 14, 2022.Junior Achievement BizTown“Our Experiment With Cryptocurrency,” richandregular.com, Jan. 10, 2019.“How to Offset the Cost of Education With a 529 Plan,” rich & REGULAR podcast, July 11, 2021.Reading RainbowNeil deGrasse TysonOther“Talking to Mom About Money,” Money on the Table, youtube.com, Aug. 2, 2020.