Never slow to come forward, and certainly not shy, Lucy and Ben throw their costumes to the wind this week and talk Playboy. A brand very familiar with dressing up and stripping off. Questioning how far the brand has been a force for emancipation or entrapment, they chat with ad man Jason Berry, sharing a never-to-be-forgotten encounter with Hugh Hefner at the (in)famous Playboy mansion. For one week only, this might be costume drama NSFW… References Seeing Through Clothes, Anne Hollander (1994) The Playboy Book - 50 Years, Gretchen Edgren, Hugh M Hefner The Butterfly Effect New Yorker obituary Links @ dressfancypodcast @ mslucyclayton @ benjamin_wild