Today we are interviewing PAs, Beth Macintire and Katie Bean. We know that most of our audience are physicians and dentists, but there is a healthy segment of you out there that are other medical professionals, such as PAs, as well as nonmedical professionals. This group is still a six-figure income, but maybe not the higher incomes that many doctors have. A lot of the information in this discussion applies not just to PAs, but to many of those other kinds of professionals as well. Today we are going to talk about the challenges of PA School, the cost of school, how to handle debt, what kind of job opportunities are out there for PAs at what salaries as well as what doing a fellowship or residency can do for you. We discuss if PAs can FIRE and if the cost of education is worth the investment. This interview will have something for everyone. This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at https://drdisabilityquotes.com He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time white coat investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage or to get this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at https://drdisabilityquotes.com today by email info@drdisabilityquotes.com or by calling (973) 771-9100. The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors with their money since 2011. Our free financial planning resource covers a variety of topics from doctor mortgage loans and refinancing medical school loans to physician disability insurance and malpractice insurance. Learn about loan refinancing or consolidation, explore new investment strategies, and discover loan programs for specifically aimed at helping doctors. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor channel is for you! Main Website: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  YouTube: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice: https://studentloanadvice.com  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Newsletter: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter