00:00 - Intro - Jarred is a Debbie Downer02:23 - Jarred printed the show notes for this episode03:17 - Criticism: Orenda downplays the importance of pH07:09 - Criticism: Orenda advocates for alkalinity below 80 ppm, but that will destroy a pool08:38 - Criticism: Orenda says 50 ppm CYA or less, but you can't hold chlorine for a week with such low levels09:54 - Criticism: Phosphates don't matter, and Orenda just says they do to sell more PR-10,00011:25 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup conflicts with other standard methods13:38 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup doesn't work14:40 - Criticism: Orenda's "education" is just propaganda for you to buy more products17:23 - Criticism: Orenda likes calcium hardness too high20:44 - Criticism: Orenda says calcium flakes from salt cells are calcium carbonate, but I was told they're calcium phosphate22:32 - Criticism: Orenda was anti-borate, but now they've flip-flopped and are pro-borate?24:17 - Criticism: The Rule Your Pool podcast is lame.  (We agree with this one).25:07 - Criticism: The Orenda Calculator is inaccurate because it differs from other LSI calculators out there26:29 - Criticism: SC-1000 is no better than other sequestering agents, plus it wipes out chlorine28:19 - Criticism: Orenda is just another greedy chemical company30:39 - Criticism: Orenda makes stuff up and calls it "research"32:55 - Criticism: Orenda unfairly criticizes algaecides...they work so well34:04 - Criticism: Enzymes don't "digest" because they aren't living35:07 - Criticism: The LSI wasn't made for pools36:34 - Criticism: Orenda says pH cannot be controlled...but my pool has a pH controller on it39:49 - Closing.  Thanks for listening!  ------------------------------------Connect with Orenda TechnologiesWebsite: https://www.orendatech.comHelp Center: https://ask.orendatech.comBlog: https://blog.orendatech.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/OrendaTechnologiesFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/orendatech/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orendatechnologies/Swim Across America | Team Orenda: https://www.swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda