Join us for Part 1 of our 2-part interview with pilot Greg Gerritsen - grandson of the late and much believed Mormon or LDS Church apostle Joseph B. Wirthlin. In this series, Greg shares with us many fascinating stories about his experiences with his grandfather including: The tendency of LDS church members to overly worship General Authorities, along with the unhealthy obsession some Mormons have with "access" to General Authorities. The undying love Elder Wirthlin had for his wife (Elisa), his family, and for football. The extent to which nepotism, cronyism, and patronage play a part in the selection of LDS church General Authorities. The downsides/sacrifices of being an LDS church Apostle/General Authority. The existence of divisions and "cliques" in the LDS church quorum of the 12 Apostles. The unhealthy pressures and expectations put on the children and grandchildren of LDS General Authorities, that often lead to a familial emphasis on "public appearance" over healthy relationships. The "code" that exists within families of LDS General Authorities to never do or say anything to bring dishonor to the family name or church, including speaking out about a loss of faith, which leads many descendants of LDS apostles to lie about and/or hide their loss of faith. How the Mormon church handles LDS apostles when they start to experience dementia. How Greg lost his LDS testimony in spite of descending from the Mormon "elite," and what led him to want to tell his story. Also, Greg shares his opinion on whether his grandfather actually "saw" Jesus Christ as an LDS apostle. We hope you enjoy!!! Episode Show Notes =====   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord =====   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!   Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App    Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts   Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com    Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117   Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormstories Join the Discord