This episode contains the second and final part of my most recent interview with David Chapman. This one is one hour long.   In part 1, we discussed a phrase he has used several times in "Meaningness And Time": secretly pretending to believe.   In this part, we apply the approach from his books to controversial issues, including how different factions process the concept of gender transition. We also discuss the nature of the false claims that the votes in the 2020 US Presidential election were not reflected in the outcome.   I mentioned this article by Freddie deBoer about "critique drift":   https://inthesetimes.com/article/nyu-grad-students-win-contract   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks   If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold   Original music by Kevin MacLeod.   This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.