The Orthodox Conundrum normally deals with weighty issues in Orthodox society; but in preparation for Pesach, I really enjoyed this interview with Meir Simcha Panzer and Nachliel Selavan about the history and themes of the Haggadah. Together we discussed some of the surprising ideas that underlie the Pesach Seder, as well as the importance of surprising ourselves and our families every time we read the Haggadah. Meir Simcha and Nachliel, who cohost the Artifact Podcast, never fail to find interesting concepts and themes that you might not have noticed before. As you get ready for Pesach, make sure you listen to make your Seder even more meaningful! Please listen to and share the podcast, and let us know what you think on the Orthodox Conundrum Discussion Group on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/432020081498108). Thanks to all of our Patreon subscribers, who have access to bonus JCH podcasts, merch, and more - we appreciate your help, and hope you really enjoy the extras! Visit the JCH Patreon site at https://www.patreon.com/jewishcoffeehouse. Check out https://jewishcoffeehouse.com/ for the Orthodox Conundrum and other great podcasts, and remember to subscribe to them on your favorite podcast provider. The site will also help you learn about creating your own podcast. Music: "Happy Rock" by bensound.com