I love episodes like this. Garrett Hope of The Portfolio Composer and I wanted to feature each other on our podcasts. But we couldn't figure out the best way to do it. So we chucked the script, flipped on the mic, and riffed for an hour on the subjects that interest us the most.   We're both bass players.  We're both podcasters.  We're both building our careers around this crazy podcast model. Already, we have a lot in common. But that's only the beginning. We're both constantly thinking about what it really means to build a career in music.   How does that even work these days?   How do income streams for musicians work?   Where are things headed?   What can today's musician do? We dig into all this and much more! By the way, if you don't subscribe to Garrett's podcast, stop reading this right now and go subscribe.  And get on his email list while you're at it.  Garrett has figured a lot of things out on the career front, and he has tremendous value to offer all of us. I love listening to Garrett's podcast.  It's one of the shows that I immediately click on when I see a new episode.  You'll love it too. Thanks to our sponsor! This episode is brought to you by D’Addario Strings! Check out their Zyex strings, which are synthetic core strings that produce an extremely warm, rich sound. Get the sound and feel of gut strings with more evenness, projection and stability than real gut. Enter the D’Addario strings giveaway for Contrabass Conversations listeners at contrabassconversations.com/strings!