**This episode was recorded prior to Russia's assault on Ukraine on Thursday.**
Putin pounces. Ukraine in peril. COVID sidelined at home. 

Romeo Kokriatski, managing editor of New Voice of Ukraine, joins us from Kyiv to talk about the horror posed by Russia’s aggression. Plus, comedian and creator of The Room Next Door Michael Spicer joins us to discuss what’s going on domestically, as Boris Johnson tries to ignore his way out of the pandemic. 


“Putin is a dictator, he doesn’t need a reason to do anything.” - Romeo Kokriatski 

“Russia’s demands were completely unacceptable. It would leave NATO countries on Russia’s borders completely undefended.” - Romeo Kokriatski

“Apart from the US, Britain can hurt Russia the most, yet we aren’t fulfilling our obligations.” - Ian Dunt 

“Covid is not the same as a cold. How are people meant to protect others if they don’t know they have it?” - Minnie Rahman 

“There’s been a running narrative of ‘when will they get this right?’ about this government.” - Michael Spicer 

“As long as this Government is in charge, there will always be material for comedy.” - Michael Spicer


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Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ian Dunt and Minnie Rahman. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.
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