Longtime friend of the podcast Abigail joins us to talk about a chapter that has deep and disturbing significance for both her and Rand. We ponder if Demandred was ever actually interested in Illenya, how much the Tower embassy was set up to fail from the start, and what must be going on in the minds of Bain and Chiad. We also discuss mental illness, trauma, the complicated definitions of “recovery,” and go through an intensive empathy session with respect to The Box. Join the conversation on Discord: https://discord.gg/YtWvCnS  Contribute on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wotspoilers  Email us: wotspoilers@gmail.com   Twitter: @wotspoilers   Instagram: @wot_spoilers   Facebook: @WOTSpoilers