DC gets an another big snowstorm and Drew tells Doug, whatever you do, don’t connect through DC! Guess what Doug does? We got a chance to meet up and Doug got to see Drew’s deice operation in person. Our first topic is one we both are experts at - airline seats. With narrow-bodies doing more international routes, a new “Butterfly” seat, which converts from 2 standard domestic first seats to 1 international lie-flat seat, may be the answer. We also discuss:Airlines panic about the introduction of 5G in the US and its possible affectsThe pandemic is becoming an endemic and will still weigh on airline profitsAn idea for resolving the airline pilot shortage - raise the maximum age to 75European airlines say that they are flying empty planes to maintain slots. Is it true?We end with another airine and wine piece, this time with a New Zealand airline started by a winery. A Saab 340 regional airline that’s focused on a beverage? We have concerns!Join the convsersation:Next Trip Network