Micaela Connery is the founder and CEO of a new inclusionary housing development called The Kelsey which is focused on creating an environment of mixed ability and mixed income. The Kelsey aims to be more than a housing development, they aim to be a social change organization expanding inclusion possibilities for individuals with disabilities. Part 1 of the interview focuses on the logistics of creating The Kelsey and why it is a desirable, yet never before created, model of housing. We are introduced to the term "inclusion natives" and learn why the city of San Jose was chosen as the first Kelsey housing development. Part 2 is an interesting discussion about how a parents motivation to create housing comes from a different angle and also why, for the future of policy, it is important for inclusionary housing to be an option. The question asked, "Does advocating for inclusionary housing mean advocating against intentional communities/campus models?" led to an interesting discussion. Part 2 of the conversation is the next episode, #62. Links to The Kelsey and topics discussed in these episodes are at www.lomah.org/podcast2/61