Become a backer of Daniel or Jack to get exclusive access to a new bonus episode. Becoming a patron also brings access to all other bonus episodes. This time, Daniel and Jack embark on a chat about Christopher Nolan's 2008 Batman movie The Dark Knight.  You know, it's the one with Heath Ledger as the Joker.   In a development that is depressingly less surprising than we wish it were, it turns out we have so much to say about this silly movie that this episode morphs into Part 1 of a two part discussion before our own astonished and frankly ashamed faces as we talk.   This episode focuses mainly on how the movie is a structural mess and a sometimes bafflingly incompetent bit of filmmaking.  The next bit gets more into the themes and ideology. Part 2 along soon. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true Content Warnings. Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to one full extra episode a month. IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1