As extreme weather events continue across the US, they're disrupting energy supplies and demanding more planning for the future. Texas and California have both in recent weeks asked residents to conserve electricity to avoid power grid failures, only a few months after crippling power outages during Texas' deep freeze. And the Gulf Coast just started what looks to be an active hurricane season. Today's guest believes the conversation about the energy transition away from fossil fuels has not focused enough on energy resilience. Economist and energy expert Paul Sullivan says our society and energy systems are a lot more brittle and vulnerable than most people think. Sullivan is the lead of the Energy Industry Study at the National Defense University and a lecturer at Johns Hopkins University, where he teaches a class on energy and environmental security. Stick around after the interview for the Market Minute, a look at near-term oil market drivers.