Two-time Caldecott Honor-winning illustrator, Pamela Zagarenski, talks to Giuseppe Castellano about why personal hardship—which led to professional abandonment—almost torpedoed her career. They discuss how she picked up the pieces; how her company’s name, Sacred Bee, came from a near-death experience; and what poets, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and John Anster, teach us about achieving our creative goals.We don’t give our podcast titles themes. But if we did, this would be, The One about Perseverance.