Eli Schiff (@eli_schiff) is a design critic and UI designer. His latest book is called Uber's Undoing, which you can learn more about on Eli's website: http://www.elischiff.com/. Big thanks to all the patrons who help me keep the lights on. If you'd like to discuss this podcast with me and others, suggest future guests, or read/watch/listen to more content on these themes, request an invitation here. This conversation was first recorded on October 16, 2018 as a livestream on Youtube. To receive notifications when future livestreams begin, subscribe to my channel with one click, then click the little bell.