Well, it’s official: you can call me consistent. On Oct 19, 2018, entrepreneur and journalist, Jonathan Allen, interviewed me before I spoke at the Vision Summit in St. Louis. This audio was meant to be used for reference for an article he was writing for his website. By his own admission, life got in the way and then he lost his nerve in writing it, so it sat dormant for 3.5 years. Today, he released the audio and more info at entrepreneurquarterly.com and I thought it was really interesting to hear how much has changed and how so much has not. You’ll want to hear this one! [note: Jonathan released the audio with my permission from 2018 so all good!]

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