Join Kevin, nancy, Teresa and Scott as they welcome the host of Dogma Debate and the man behind Secular Media group: David C Smalley. David explains the origins of his show and his passion for activism. He also introduces the series of books based on real life scientists called TINY THINKERS. Given the state of US education, is it too late to stop the lack of intellectualism in America.

http://tinythinkersbooks.com/

http://dogmadebate.com

Nancy talks about the top 10 quack sites on Quack watch

and a creationist sues...The Grand canyon