Dr. Carolyn Lam: Welcome to Circulation on the Run, your weekly podcast summary and backstage pass to the journal and its editors. We're your co-hosts, I'm Dr. Carolyn Lam, associate editor from the National Heart Center and Duke National University of Singapore. Dr. Greg Hundley: And I'm Dr. Greg Hundley, associate editor, director of the Pauley Heart Center at VCU health in Richmond, Virginia. Well, Carolyn, our feature discussion, actually our whole issue, is going to involve the flozins, empa, dapa, et cetera, but that feature discussion will get some results from the EMPEROR-Reduced trial. Well Carolyn, how about we grab a cup of coffee and this is your area, so we're going to let you run with it today. Dr. Carolyn Lam: Man, and I can't wait to talk about this. Yes, the sodium-glucose cotransporter 2 inhibitors or SGLT2 inhibitors, are indeed now the foundational therapies for patients with heart failure with reduced ejection fraction. Initially developed to improve glucose control in patients with type II diabetes, SGLT2 inhibitors have beneficial cardiovascular and renal effects in patients with diabetes, HFrEF, chronic kidney disease. Well, today's issue contains two pre-specified subgroup analyses from DAPA-HF and EMPEROR-Reduced, both trials evaluating SGLT2 inhibitor effects on renal outcomes, as well as cardiovascular outcomes, by baseline renal function in patients with HFrEF. The first paper comes from Dr. Jhund and colleagues from the University of Glasgow and it is revolving around the DAPA-HF trial. Dr. Greg Hundley: Ah Carolyn, tell us a little bit about DAPA-HF. Dr. Carolyn Lam: Gladly. In DAPA-HF, the SGLT2 inhibitor, dapagliflozin, reduced the incidence of the primary composite outcome of cardiovascular death or worsening heart failure in patients with HFrEF, with and without diabetes and an estimated GFR of greater or equal to 30. Of more than 4,700 patients with a baseline GFR, 41% had a GFR less than 60. The effect of dapagliflozin on the primary and secondary outcomes did not differ by GFR category or examining GFR as a continuous variable. The pre-specified composite renal outcomes, which in DAPA-HF was a more than 50% sustained decline in GFR, end stage renal disease or renal death. Now this composite renal outcome was not reduced by dapagliflozin, but the rate of decline of GFR between days 14 and 720 was less with dapagliflozin. Dr. Greg Hundley: Carolyn, what's the take home message here? Dr. Carolyn Lam: Dapagliflozin slowed the rate of decline in GFR in patients with HFrEF, both in patients with and without diabetes. There was no difference in the efficacy of dapagliflozin by baseline renal function in preventing the risk of cardiovascular death or worsening heart failure. Dr. Greg Hundley: Okay, well now how about the EMPEROR-Reduced trial? Dr. Carolyn Lam: All right. Well, let me remind you first that in EMPEROR-Reduced the SGLT2 inhibitor empagliflozin also reduced cardiovascular death or heart failure hospitalization and total heart failure hospitalization and slowed the progressive decline in kidney function in patients with heart failure with reduced ejection fraction with and without diabetes. Now, more than 3,700 patients were randomized, of whom 53% had chronic kidney disease, defined as a GFR less than 60 or a urinary albumin to creatinine ratio above 300 milligrams per gram. Empagliflozin reduced the primary outcome and total heart failure hospitalizations in patients with and without chronic kidney disease. Empagliflozin also slowed the slope of GFR decline and the risk of the pre-specified composite kidney outcome, now defined as a sustained, profound decline in GFR, chronic dialysis or transplant, was reduced similarly in patients with and without chronic kidney disease. Dr. Carolyn Lam: The effect of empagliflozin on the primary composite outcome of cardiovascular death and heart failure hospitalization, as well as the key secondary outcomes of total heart failure hospitalization