Encryption plays a critical role in protecting our data from hackers and theft. But at the same time, it presents a challenge for law enforcement when it comes to their work catching dangerous criminals and terrorists. What are the possible options at the end of the encryption debate, and are any of them actually viable? How can we protect our data while still enabling law enforcement to do their jobs? Erka Koivunen, CISO of F-Secure, joins us to discuss the encryption "sweet spot" that we've currently found, why some parties want to change it, and why there are no easy answers. Links Episode 42 transcript New York Times The Daily podcast "A Criminal Underworld of Child Abuse, Part 2"