On this wellbeing podcast, Abi and Cat are joined by Emma Lishman, a clinical psychologist and part of the North Bristol NHS Trust's staff wellbeing team.Emma helps doctors return to training after a break - be that for maternity leave, or covid-19.

Emma describes some of the fears that doctors who have been shielding have expressed coming back onto the ward, the ways in which teams may inadvertently make those worse, and the problems with complying with risk assessments in the face of staffing pressures.

Wellbeing podcasts have focused a lot on the importance of openness about mental health in the NHS, but in this podcast, you'll also hear how reluctant clinicians are to discuss physical health problems - and why the taboo around all aspects of illhealth needs to be tackled.

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