Today's episode is the first of a three-part Pragmatic Folks series and we are joined by Dave Thomas and Andy Hunt to talk about the 20th-anniversary edition of The Pragmatic Programmer. This new edition was not only an opportunity for them to revise the material but also to revisit their thinking and see how ideas have changed over the course of twenty years. Their seminal publication codified processes that people had been doing without having a vocabulary for it. An example of this is what they call rubber ducking, which is a useful technique to use for problem-solving.