An interview with Dr. Jessica Geiger from Cleveland Clinic on “Diagnosis and Management of Squamous Cell Carcinoma of Unknown Primary in the Head and Neck: ASCO Guideline.” This guideline provides evidence-based recommendations addressing diagnosis, surgery, radiation therapy, and systemic therapy for patients with squamous cell carcinoma of unknown primary in the head and neck. Read the full guideline at www.asco.org/head-neck-cancer-guidelines.   Transcript [MUSIC PLAYING] The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. This is not a substitute for professional medical care and is not intended for use in the diagnosis or treatment of individual conditions. Guests on this podcast express their own opinions, experience, and conclusions. The mention of any product, service, organization, activity, or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hello and welcome to the ASCO Guidelines Podcast Series brought to you by the ASCO Podcast Network, a collection of nine programs covering a range of educational and scientific content and offering enriching insight into the world of cancer care. You can find all the shows including this one at podcasts.asco.org. My name is Brittany Harvey, and today I'm interviewing Dr. Jessica Geiger from Cleveland Clinic, author on Diagnosis and Management of Squamous Cell Carcinoma of Unknown Primary in the Head and Neck ASCO guideline. Thank you for being here, Dr. Geiger. Thanks, Brittany, for the invitation and the opportunity. First, can you tell our listeners what is squamous cell carcinoma of unknown primary in the head and neck and what this guideline generally covers? Sure. So cancer of unknown primary or carcinoma of unknown primary in the head and neck is metastatic squamous cell carcinoma found in cervical lymph nodes. And importantly, there's a lack of a primary mucosal tumor that's identified. So these patients comprise about 5% of all head and neck cancers. And it poses a challenge for all members of the treatment team, both from a diagnostic perspective but as well as treatment management; what is the best way to proceed for treatment with these patients? Now this guideline provides an up-to-date and evidence-based management for recommendations. And these recommendations are based on published literature. But where the data is lacking in the literature, expert panel consensus was utilized to provide recommendations. I'd like to discuss some of the key recommendations of this guideline. First, with regard to diagnosis of squamous cell carcinoma of unknown primary in the head and neck, what are the challenges, and what are the recommendations from the guideline? The diagnostic challenges come about when a patient presents with a neck mass. They often have imaging, a clinical exam. But again, about 3 to 5 percent of patients, we will be unable to locate where this tumor started. Squamous cells don't show up in the lymph nodes by themselves. They came from somewhere else. And part of the reason that this makes a diagnostic challenge if we're not able to readily see where the primary tumor is, oftentimes, it's very small in size. And so it's not picked up by imaging or by a physical exam. Also, these are sometimes difficult anatomic locations to evaluate. So all of this can pose a challenge to coming up with the right diagnosis. Now some of the recommendations for diagnosing these patients, obviously, we need to have a complete history and physical exam. And this physical exam should include a fiberoptic laryngoscopy, so a good lab endoscopy exam looking at all of the mucosal tissues, trying to find abnormalities, trying to see where exactly this cancer started. Now in order to make the diagnosis of squamous cell carcinoma, obviously, a biopsy needs to be done, and that is in the neck, where these suspicious nodes are. Either a fine needle aspiration or a core needle biopsy is recommended within these guidelines. The guidelines also indicate when to do a